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Thrihyrne ([personal profile] thrihyrne) wrote2004-07-26 07:13 pm

Plot bunnies. Nuzgul. DUCK!!


EDIT. I'm an idiot. Have fixed this post.

I have two lingering Ardaverse stories that I'm working on. I feel as though I've abandoned Middle-Earth for Harry Potterdom, and then, on around the fiftieth time I've listened to "Steer by the Stars" on [no surprise] one of Jen's compilation CDs, I realized that there's a story there, inspired by it. From either Tar-Meneldur's son's POV (Aldarion), or his daughter-in-law Erendis, the focus of the first part of 'Celestial Quartet' that I wrote last fall. All Tolkien Unfinished Tales, all the way. Bound to be bleak, as he (the son) keeps leaving Numenor to go sailing to M-E, but if anyone were to sail by the stars, and it not be King Elentirmo, it would be his Aldarion who leaves his very resentful wife behind. Her choice, though, as he keeps inviting her along, and she keeps resisting.

*intrigued*

Ugh. Off to write.

BTW, the lovely writer [livejournal.com profile] llembas, used to go by palarran, the ship built by Aldarion.

Really off to write now.

Instead had long, drawn-out conversation with Mr. Thev about how my life is a mess. No writing. Took today off.

Dedicated to Jen. Who is fabulous.

(and she still is)

[identity profile] fileg.livejournal.com 2004-07-27 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
I thought Aldarion's boat was Númerrámar, the Wings of the West?

[identity profile] edrys.livejournal.com 2004-07-27 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought Aldarion's boat was Númerrámar, the Wings of the West?
It was sort of his ship, but not really his own. That was the name of the ship on which Anardil/Aldarion first sailed to Middle-earth with his maternal grandfather, Vëantur, Captain of the King's Ships under Tar-Elendil; the Númerrámar, as I understand it, was Vëantur's own [yes, in UT's Index it is identified as Vëantur's own vessel].
When Aldarion spoke of this venture, and asked leave to go as soon as the spring winds should be favourable, Meneldur was loath to grant it... "I shall miss you sorely; but with Vëantur as captain, under the grace of the Valar, I shall live in good hope of your return. But do not become enamoured of the Great Lands, you who one day must be King and Father of this Isle!"

[snipped couple of paragraphs re: the voyage, which lasted two years]

There was joy in Rómenna and Armenelos when men saw the great ship Númerrámar (which signifies "West-wings") coming up from the sea, her golden sails reddened in the sunset. The summer was nearly over and the Eruhantalë was nigh...
(UT: Part Two - The Second Age: II Aldarion and Erendis - The Mariner's Wife)

Palarran was the great ship Anardil/Aldarion built after his estrangement from his father and before he became engaged to Erendis (it was she who brought the bough of oiolarië (the Bough of Return) to set on the prow of the vessel before he set sail, both events against his father's wishes).
He spoke no more to his father of such matters, but passed his days upon the ship Eämbar in the company of the Venturers, and in the building of a vessel greater than any made before: that ship he named Palarran, the Far-Wanderer.
(ibid)
Note that the Palarran was the second of Anardil/Aldarion's ships, the first being Eämbar.
At that time he [Aldarion], having no mind to live upon land in Armenelos, had a ship built that should serve as his dwelling-place; he named it therefore Eämbar, and at times he would sail in it from haven to haven of Númenor, but for the most part it lay at anchor off Tol Uinen: and that was a little isle in the bay of Rómenna that was set there by Uinen the Lady of the Seas. Upon Eämbar was the Guildhouse of the Venturers, and there were kept the records of their great voyages;...
(ibid)
What can I say? It's the research geek in me... :-p (*plus this is all part of my own Númenorean story arc*).

[identity profile] fileg.livejournal.com 2004-07-27 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks, ness. this is the part of the history I am the least familiar with (I guess it will have to be my next place) I remember looking for it when I was writing All These - but I was specifically looking for bosts named for wings, and that must be why I chose it.

[identity profile] edrys.livejournal.com 2004-07-28 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I found a line that I'd overlooked before. After Aldarion returned from that first voyage with Vëantur, it states:
Vëantur did not again voyage from Númenor; but the Númerrámar he gave in gift to Aldarion.
So you were right too. I had totally forgotten that Vëantur had given the Númerrámar to Aldarion. The building of the Eämbar (btw UT's index says that [the] name doubtless means 'Sea-dwelling') came sometime after Aldarion's thirty-ninth year, and the Palarran came later.

[identity profile] fileg.livejournal.com 2004-07-27 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
But what does Palarran mean?

[identity profile] llembas.livejournal.com 2004-07-27 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Far-Wanderer

[identity profile] edrys.livejournal.com 2004-07-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] llembas nailed it: Far-Wanderer